“Mama, where are you taking us?”

Arrival and First Impressions: Childhood in Migration   

Anastasia Walden moves to Germany from Greece as a child in the early 1960s. Her arrival is marked by feelings of unfamiliarity, fear, and uncertainty. She initially finds her new surrounding strange and overwhelming. 

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School, Language, and Finding Her Own Path     

In her adult life, she focuses on her career, family and community involvement. Anastasia juggles responsibilities at work, at home, and within the Greek community. 

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Work, Family, and Community Engagement  

In her adult life, she focuses on her career, family and community involvement. Anastasia juggles responsibilities at work, in raising her children, and within the Greek community.

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Historical-Political Background

Historical-Political Background 

In the 1960s, the Federal Republic of Germany experienced rapid economic growth during the so-called “Wirtschaftswunder”, which led to an increasing demand for labour. To address an impending lack of workforce, Germany signed recruitment agreements with several countries, including Greece on 30 March 1960. The aim was to attract workers for the industrial and service sectors, particularly for mining, the steel industry, and other areas of production. 

Over time, many of these workers brought their families to Germany, as it became clear that their stay would not be temporary but long-term. 

Anastasia Walden, née Papadopoulou, was born in Votanochóri near Larissa in Thessaly/Greece and came to Germany as a child in August 1963. Her parents had migrated earlier under the recruitment agreement. While her father worked in construction, her mother gradually established herself as a seamstress. 

Anastasia’s arrival in Germany was marked by strong impressions: her new surroundings initially seemed unfamiliar and frightening. Entering school and adapting to everyday life posed major challenges, particularly due to language barriers, but also opened up new opportunities. She completed a commercial training and went on to work for many years in the same company. 

Over the course of her life, she also experienced social and political changes in Germany that affected her daily life. After the opening of the inner-German border, the atmosphere in her workplace changed noticeably, and questions of belonging were renegotiated. 

Alongside her professional life, she was actively engaged in her family and in the Greek community, taking on responsibilities in her children’s school environment and participating in community activities.1

She initially lived in Recklinghausen, where she completed her business training. After getting married, she moved to Bochum, where she continues to live today. 

Anastasia Walden’s biography is representative of many life stories of children born to labour migrants, who found their own paths between family expectations, education, and professional opportunities. 

Making of

How and why did you decide to deal with and present this specific story? 

On the occasion of the 60th anniversary of the recruitment agreement between Bonn and Ankara, the Ruhr Museum presented the exhibition “We Are from Here. Turkish-German Life 1990. Photographs by Ergun Çağatay” (2021), as well as “Mustafa’s Dream. Photographs by Henning Christoph on Turkish Life in Germany 1977–1989” (2021-2022). 

Both exhibitions combined historical insights with personal stories and aimed to bring greater attention to the long-overlooked experiences of labour migration in Germany, while also encouraging dialogue between generations and communities. 

The accompanying programs were also deliberately designed to be participatory. The decision to tell migration history not only from an institutional perspective, but also to actively involve the communities concerned, was based on the idea of making diverse experiences visible and sharing interpretive authority. 

In this context, the Ruhr Museum is involved in the European project FeMig.Lab. Through its own interview project, it specifically focuses on the life stories of migrant women in order to raise the profile of female migration experiences, which have historically been less well documented. The focus is on intergenerational experiences of women from Spain, Greece, and Turkey. Its goal is to connect individual perspectives with broader historical and political contexts, offering a more nuanced view of female labour migration. 

How did you negotiate and decide about the methodologies and processes in acquiring/giving the testimony? 

The project is designed and carried out by the Ruhr Museum (Meltem Küçükyılmaz) in cooperation with the Spanischen Elternverein Essen e. V. (Cristina Fernández-Moser), HistAgoge | Geschichtsforschung (Spiridon Papaioannou), and the mitMach Agentur (Mustafa Mert). The questionnaire and thematic focus areas were developed jointly, and the selection of interview partners was also evaluated together. This participatory approach builds on the Ruhr Museum’s previous work. 

In terms of content, the project focuses on two distinct generations of migration: women from the so-called recruitment agreement generation and a more recent wave of migrant women and expatriates who have arrived in Germany since around 2011. The selected interviewees are Anastasia Walden, Ceferina García García, and Neriman Yılmaz, representing the recruitment agreement generation, and EstreÇağla Diner, and Maria Papadopoulou, representing the more recent wave. With two women from Spain, two from Greece, and two from Turkey, the project combines an intergenerational perspective with a comparative, transnational approach. Since all participants responded to the same set of interview questions, their experiences can be compared systematically. By examining their opportunities, challenges, legal status, employment experiences, and social acceptance in Germany, the project aims to highlight both continuities and changes in women’s migration experiences over time and across national contexts. 

Prior to the interviews, preliminary personal conversations took place, during which the goals, process, and expectations were discussed transparently. The interviewees were actively involved and had a say in deciding which topics and aspects of their stories they wanted to share. The interviews were conducted in a safe environment within the museum and, where desired, in the participants’ native language in order to build trust and reduce barriers. 

Sensitive topics were handled in close coordination with the participants; content could be omitted, anonymized, or adapted at any time. 

How and why did you decide to publicly present the story this way? 

For the presentation, a format was deliberately chosen that preserves the personal character of the stories and allows the women’s voices to be experienced directly. The combination of interviews, images, and personal materials creates a multi-layered approach that makes individual experiences visible and relatable. 

The interviewees were involved in decisions regarding publication and were able to have a say in what content would be included and how their stories would be presented. This ensured that the representation reflected their perspectives and respected their autonomy. 

At the same time, the project sees itself as a curatorial process that is always shaped by selection and classification. This responsibility is consciously reflected upon in order to present the stories in a respectful and context-sensitive way. In doing so, the project acknowledges existing power dynamics and seeks to reduce barriers through participation and transparency. 

Particular emphasis is placed on protecting the participants: issues relating to data protection and publication are communicated clearly and agreed upon jointly. The aim is also to make the content as accessible as possible, especially for the communities involved, and to ensure open access to these stories. 

What is the motivation and benefit for the person/community sharing the story? How did you negotiate this and take it into consideration? 

Throughout the project, care was taken to ensure that both the cooperating partners and the interviewees benefited from their involvement. The cooperation partners received a fee for their conceptual and organizational contributions, recognizing their expertise and commitment. The interviewees were offered an expense allowance to acknowledge their time, their willingness to participate, and their openness in sharing personal stories. 

In addition, the participating associations and institutions benefit from long-term networking with the museum, as well as from the opportunity to make their own perspectives and topics visible and to contribute them to cultural processes. For the interviewees, alongside the financial recognition, the main benefit lies in the visibility of their life stories. 

Overall, the project aims to foster a partnership of equals that encompasses both intangible and tangible forms of recognition and strengthens sustainable relationships between institutions and communities. 

What questions and challenges arose during the processes? 

A key challenge in the project was multilingualism, which is also a major strength. The linguistic diversity of the interviewees reflects their different migration experiences and helped create a trusting and comfortable atmosphere during the conversations. At the same time, it presented practical challenges, particularly in terms of translation and subtitling. This process required a sensitive approach in order to convey meanings as accurately as possible. Thanks to close collaboration with the project partners, this process was successfully carried out as they contributed both their linguistic and cultural expertise. 

Credits

Interview  

Conducted on 11 February 2026 at Ruhr Museum, Essen. © Ruhr Museum 

Texts 

The texts were created with the involvement of Spiridon Papaioannou. 

We would like to extend our heartfelt thanks to Anastasia Walden for sharing her story and memories with us. Together with five other interviewees from Spain, Greece, and Turkey, she contributes to an intergenerational and transnational interview project exploring women’s migration experiences in Germany. 

The conception and implementation of the interview project were carried out by Ruhr Museum (Meltem Küçükyılmaz) in collaboration with Spanischer Elternverein Essen e. V. (Cristina Fernández-Moser), HistAgoge | Geschichtsforschung (Spiridon Papaioannou), and mitMach Agentur (Mustafa Mert). 

Pictures 

© Anastasia Walden 

Transcript PDF here.

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Footnotes

  1. Anastasia Walden served for several years on the board of a Greek parents’ association, where she was involved, among other roles, as secretary and chairperson; see also, for additional context on the association’s history: Griechische Vereinigung Bochum e.V. (formerly Verein griechischer Eltern- und Erziehungsberechtigter Bochum e.V.), “Unsere Historie”, available online at: http://www.grinbo.de/unsere-historie/  ↩︎